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Korendians on the Internet

Stuff That Just Ain't So

20090407

A Web search for the words "Korendian" and "Korendians" turns up quite a few UFO-related sites that list them. Most of them are simple cut & paste jobs that repeat one of a few standard "descriptions". Here are the most common ones.


KORENDIAN

Humans allegedly living on a colonized planet known as 'Korender'. Perfectly 'human' in proportion yet 4-5 ft. tall on the average. Gabriel Green described alleged contacts with this group in publications during the late 1950's - early '60's. The accounts published by Gabriel Green were rather fantastic, although perhaps no less so than some other accounts. Many of the contactees who have allegedly encountered the 'Korendians'--such as John W. Dean who wrote a 'catalogue' of life on other planets which contained reams of inaccurate astronomical data, and Colin Boyd Cameron--have obviously been the subjects of apparent 'propaganda' or 'disinformation' operations. This suggests that if the Korendians do exist they MAY be a MIB-like society similar to the 'Lanolus' people or the 'MIB' society described by John A. Keel in some of his works (Evadamic-Draconian?).

KORENDIAN

Humans allegedly living on a colonized planet known as 'Korender'. Perfectly 'human' in proportion yet 4-5 ft. tall on the average. Gabriel Green described alleged contacts with this group in publications during the late 1950's - early '60's. The accounts published by Gabriel Green were rather fantastic, although perhaps no less so than some other accounts. Robert Renaud is one of the main "Korendian" contactees, and he claims that they have a large underground facility somewhere in Massachusetts. The Korendians claim alliance with the Arcturians and are part of a massive collective Alliance of worlds who lean more to non-Interventionism than to direct Interventionism.

In order to clear up the misconceptions, this is a message that I sent to a UFO board. The bold text was from the site. The reddish text was my response.

Humans allegedly living on a colonized planet known as 'Korender'.

The origin of this and other "facts" is unknown. However, in the 12-planet system of the star Korena, Korendor (with an "o") and Korenhal (the third and fourth planets in the system) have indigenous life. There are colonies on the others that will support them.

Perfectly 'human' in proportion yet 4-5 ft. tall on the average.

Re the appearance of the Korendians, this is from my unpublished contact of 11-12 July 1987.

"This is your 'new' Korendian body as of your last replica visit to our lovely little world. So, what do you think?" He looked over at me, and apparently noticed my stunned expression, because he leaned back in the seat and just smiled.

I studied that image for a long time. He was right. It was ugly. It was expectedly short, although Orii told me it was somewhat taller than the average, and solidly constructed for their gravity, which is 3.2 times that of Earth. The eyes were about the same size ratio to the head as ours, and placed at about the same location on the face. They were deep blue, almost indigo, with smaller pupils because of Korena's light being about 1/6 brighter at the Korendian surface than our sun's on Earth. There were no discernible eyebrows (or in fact any hair at all). The skull structure over the eyes protruded more than a Terran's, perhaps to shade the eyes from overhead sunlight.

The ears were smaller in relation to the head than ours, lobeless and distinctly peaked at the top. They were pressed almost flat against the head. The nose was small, with slit nostrils. The mouth was slit-like, with lips that were less pronounced than ours, and slightly narrower in proportion to the jaw. It was curled upward in what on Korendor must pass for a smile.

The head was rounded, with a larger cranial cavity (comparatively) than a Terran's, and with concavity in the cheeks that started at the lower jaw and ended in front of the ears. The neck was thick and sinewy, again an effect of higher gravity. The torso was compact and powerfully muscular. The arms and legs were at about the same ratio of length to body height as ours, but were heavier and very well developed.

The hands were proportionate to ours, but with slightly longer fingers and a discernable webbing between the thumb and the rest of the hand. As with the rest of the body, it appeared to be quite strong. The skin was very smooth. It was what we would call "white" in color, but with a "tanned" appearance not unlike what one would see on any California beach.

This description was based on a computerized image of the body that I am given when visiting Korendor. Through frankly grotesque by our standards, we are every bit as ugly and unsettling to them. This might not be overly comforting to Terrans, but we are not the physical standard for the humanoid lifeforms in the universe.


Update 20080712:

The cited misinformation was from a communication from Master Kalen-Li RETAN, dated May 4, 1966, that was delivered at the AFSCA's Third National Flying Saucer Convention, July 8 to 10, 1966. The text of the message was published in UFOI in issue #24, July 1966. The Convention schedule does not indicate when it was read.

Another question which has often arisen is our natural physical appearance. In answer. I will state that we are humanoid beings, indistinguishable from yourselves, except that in our natural form, we average three to four feet in height. Every other dimension is proportionately scaled, such that photographs of us would not reveal our origin in any way.

The message itself was delivered via a one-way communication that was automatically recorded on tape. The Korendians assume that it was intercepted, edited and then retransmitted to me, I later typed out the text and sent it to Mr. Green without verifying it with the Kors. He then published it the July 1966 issue, to coincide with the Convention. Oddly enough, I forgot about it having been published, since it was not saved in my paper files, and it was in an issue that had no other material from me.

After having encountered several Web pages with the disinfo, I rechecked everything that had been published, and found the message in Issue 24. Kalen checked it for content and found examples of disinformation.

The first section was subtly edited. Kalen used "Confederation" and "Sector command", not "local planets", "Venus, Mars, and other planets", and "the local Tribunal of Planets". The changes were part of the bad science that was routinely being fed to the contactees in order to discredit them.

The italicized text in the above-quoted paragraph is the source of the ubiquitous Web claim about the Kors being identical to us, only smaller. It replaced a brief description that paralleled the one of 1987. Note that my surprise at the appearance of the Korendians was due not to my thinking that they were miniaturized Terrans, but rather that when in their form, there was no reason to contemplate differences.


Gabriel Green described alleged contacts with this group in publications during the late 1950's - early '60's.

Some variations describe Mr. Green as having contacted them. Although he was a contactee, he was not involved with the Korendians. He was the publisher of my accounts. They ran in UFO International and Flying Saucers International (issue #24 and later) from issue #18, June 1963 to Issue #29, March 1969, with a couple of breaks.

The accounts published by Gabriel Green were rather fantastic, although perhaps no less so than some other accounts.

Possibly the author meant "more so" rather than "less so", judging by the context of the sentence, but that's a minor point. In any case, one cannot relate stories of communications and contact with alien beings without their being somewhat more unusual than a trip to grandma's house for supper.

Many of the contactees who have allegedly encountered the 'Korendians'...

For the record, I am the ONLY Korendian contact person. There have been a few that have made such claims. They are either the victims of deception or are frauds.

... such as John W. Dean who wrote a 'catalogue' of life on other planets which contained reams of inaccurate astronomical data...

Like Mr. Green, John Dean was working with me. My interface with him was re putting information that I sent him into book format. The infamous "Master Lists of Planets" was NOT part of it. I did arrange with the Korendians to have such such a list sent to him, which they did. It was evidently intercepted and the one in the book was substituted. This was not an uncommon occurence during the years when I was corresponding with people. The forces that the Alliance and the Korendians were and are combatting were notorious for disinformation.

The list was delivered to him by special delivery, and he accepted it as genuine. It was evidently a masterful forgery. He didn't make any direct references to it in his letters, other than to say he received it and was impressed by the depth of information. My first exposure to it was when it was published, and I had no reason to doubt what it contained (and the lack of calculators, let alone computers, made the task of verifying the data a prodigious number-crunching chore that I wasn't interested in taking on).

"Flying Saucers Close-Up" was published in 1970, but it wasn't until the mid-1970s that I got around to showing the book to my associates. They immediately realized that the MLP was a fake, but by then it was far too late for any hope of corrections. We decided that it wasn't going to be a best-seller, and that it would do minimal damage. Therefore nothing further was said of it.

The book is still available for outrageous prices, e.g., http://www.mysticlink.com/si/006431.html

... and Colin Boyd Cameron...

Cameron is a highly imaginative fellow, but he has NEVER contacted any alien entity, let alone Korendians. I receive infrequent mailings from him, and he's definitely on the outer edges.

There is another alleged contactee in Germany, Dr. Eberhardt Schmitt, who authored a booklet that was, to be kind, amateurish. It contained badly-reproduced photos, including shots of a "spaceship" that looked like nothing so much as a spherical charcoal grill, and one of full frontal nudity. The author was Colin Cameron's German counterpart.

... have obviously been the subjects of apparent 'propaganda' or 'disinformation' operations.

In Dean's case, that is true. In Cameron's case, that's pure assumption.

This suggests that if the Korendians do exist...

They do.

... they MAY be a MIB-like society similar to the 'Lanolus' people or the 'MIB' society described by John A. Keel in some of his works (Evadamic-Draconian?).

This is an unfounded hypothesis. The "dark forces" that they are here to combat may fit that description, and they do engage in disinfo operations, as noted above, but the Kors are NOT of that sort.

The following was not sent to the site. It addresses the last half of the second paragraph, which the site did not include.

Robert Renaud is one of the main "Korendian" contactees…

As noted in the previous section, I am the Korendians' ONLY contact person.

…and he claims that they have a large underground facility somewhere in Massachusetts.

At one time there were several such bases. Of the original bases, there are now only two still in use, one in Massachusetts and the other under the seabed off the coast of California. Three smaller space-craft hangaring facilities are located in remote places around the world, and a very small scientific facility is located in the Australian outback. Their activities here do not require more. In addition, there are three active bases on the moon, one under Plato, one under Copernicus, and one small unmanned facility on the far side for communications purposes. All are of a military nature.

The Korendians claim alliance with the Arcturians...

The Arcturians are aligned with both the Confederation and the UWA (United Worlds Alliance). This is not uncommon, although the majority of aligned worlds are with one or the other.

... and are part of a massive collective Alliance of worlds...

The last count I received (15 Aug 2006) was 773,528 full members and 683 "protectorates".

... who lean more to non-Interventionism than to direct Interventionism.

Non-intervention is standard policy, but the Alliance is not nearly as zealous about it as the Confederation. The Alliance program here is an example of that.


This is a third much less common variant.

In 1970, the American contactee John W Dean, published his book ”Flying Saucers Close-up” in which he in detail accounts for his encounters with the Korendians. It is a fantastic tale, enhanced by colorful, retouched photographs of flying saucers. Dean also includes a complete grammar, weight system and figures. The letters are simple and legible compared, for example, to the scribbling of Adamski, but Dean’s ideas are no more than products of a writer’s mind.

There is nothing in the paragraph that mandates comment. It's simply an expansion of the sentence about John W. Dean that was addressed above.

This can be found on a few sites:

There is supposed to be a planet called Korendor which is thought to be 411 light years away from Earth. NE of Arcturus in the night sky but not visible to telescopes.

Where that originated is unknown. In fact, at magnitude +7.4, it is visible in any reasonably good pair of binoculars, athough picking it out from the other stars in the area is not an easy task. For the record, this is where Korena is located. It's the center star in the circle.


Lastly, a recently published article included this comment:

The majority of the material he presented consisted of transcriptions of conversations, primarily messages and social diatribes from his Korendian contacts. At times his story reads like a "100 ways Korendor is better than Earth" list.

At the time of publication, the Korendian operations on Earth were still fairly new. They had not yet deeply infiltrated our nations and cultures, and so were relying on second-hand information from our own media and from the Confederation.

Although their contacts might have appeared to reveal a "better than thou" attitude, it was not their intention to deal with us in that way. Their purpose was to tell us of the way of life on Korendor and in the Alliance. In doing so, they spoke of philosophies and practices that were superior to ours simply because they were thousands of years older than ours.

They freely admitted that their world had "growing pains", and that many errors were made in the process of maturing. This is the way of imperfect humanity everywhere in creation. They composed their messages to teach us that advancement is possible here as it was there, and that we are fully capable of attaining their level of culture and science. Their primary concern was that we seemed to be far more focused on finding new ways to wage war and kill our fellow man than we were in seeking peace and unity.

As the years passed following their initial series of messages, they became aware of the presence and the activity of the Omegans, and their exploitation of our historical tendency toward militarism, violence and war for their own ends. The Alliance/Kor viewpoint was altered, and their teacher-student relationship with us was all but abandoned.

They are now working "behind the scenes" rather than contacting us directly. This is for our benefit, since the cold fact is that we are not capable of combatting the Omegans on our own, and we would die trying.


Added 20090407: another item has cropped up recently, apparently from a Coast-to-Coast AM broadcast of May 1, 2007. This sentence or similarly worded ones appear on several websites such as the Project Avalon Forum.

"Korendian" contactee Robert Renaud claims that over 150,000 human-looking extraterrestrials live in the United States, with over 30,000 in California alone, Salla reported.

The source of those numbers is unknown. The only statistics that I provided on that subject were in a letter sent to Gabriel Green, dated 28 March 1987. It included these tables:

OPERATIVE ASSIGNMENTS

AREA OF INTEREST        PERSONNEL         COORDINATOR

United States           110,000           Master Kalen-Li Retan
Soviet Union            100,000           Master Almin-Kaer Marak
Europe                   85,000           Master Jakon-Ser Terol
Mid-East                 40,000           Master Vadin-Par Somek
Africa                   33,000           Master Warin-Jol Hatom
Asia (except USSR)       64,000           Master Peret-Lon Wilor
All other areas          56,000           Master Komen-Del Galar


BASE ASSIGNMENTS

BASE LOCATION           PERSONNEL         CONTROLLER

Massachusetts           23,700            Temak-Larik
California              31,200            Marel-Selat
Washington, DC           3,800            Lamar-Trel
Europe                  21,300            Elban-Kelit
Soviet Union            28,000            Matek-Pol
China                   18,900            Belar-Robem
Egypt (Mid-East)        10,200            Domik-Tren
Others (sea, etc.)      84,700            Master Hekim-Lett Relam
Plato (Luna-1)          37,000            Master Relda-Kim Trepol
Copernicus (Luna-2)     12,700            Daler-Gerik
Mars                     7,400            Paden-Lektir

The two tables were not related. The 110,000 figure (not 150,000) was for field operatives in the United States. The second table was for permanent and rotating personnel assigned to the subterranean bases around the world. They were entirely separate from the count of field ops. It was unlikely that any of them would be found amongst the people of Earth.

I assume that Mr. Green shared that information with others such as Dr. Salla, but whoever received it was incautious about preserving it.

That aside, Korendian/Alliance operatives are not "human-looking", but are in fact fully human. It is impossible to determine their extraterrestrial origin by normal means. And as was pointed out by ArKay on this page, from which the above text was copied, the numbers have been drastically reduced in 22 years.



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